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2012 C Rankings

April 10, 2012

Offensive Center

Prototype in the NFL: Nick Mangold

Best In Class

Best Feet: Peter Konz                                         Best Jab: Quentin Saulsberry

Best Run Blocker: Philip Blake                       Best 2nd level Blocker: Peter Konz

Best Pass Blocker: Peter Konz                         Best Mean Streak: Mike Molk

Best Pancake Blocker: Mike Molk                 Best Technician: William Vlachos

1. Peter Konz Winsconsin #66 6’5 314 Jr.

Comparison: Ryan Kalil

Background: Redshirted in 2008. 9/10 in ’09 at C. 11/11 in ’10 at C (missed 2 games with injuries). 10/10 in ’11 at C (missed 3 games with injury).

Combine: Didn’t participate in any drills and only did the bench press which he performed poorly in.

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Notes: Starting C on probably the best OL in the nation in ’10. Grades out about as high as Carimi does which is pretty incredible as he is a Soph and Carimi as a Sr. won the Outland Trophy. In the ’10 Rose Bowl vs. TCU had pancake block on DT Corey Grant (14:50 1st), good pull block on sweep (4:54 1st), missed Tank Carder on a delayed blitz allowing a huge hit on his QB (3:51 1st), good 2nd level pull cut block on LB Tanner Brock showing elite quickness (0:28 1st), great 2nd level block on Carder opening massive hole in center of field for 9 yd run (11:50 2nd), and missed 2nd level block on Tank for short gain tackle (1:30 2nd). Looked like one of the biggest, most athletic centers in the country and is already a 2nd rounder who could develop into the rare 1st round center whenever he leaves 1/21/11. Enters the 2011 season ranked #26 on my Big Board. In the 2011 UNLV game he showed great feet adjusting to DT’s penetration easily mirroring him away from QB (13:24 1st), great pull block and pancaked LB (10:42 2nd), and a nice pancake block on screen setting up 39 yd catch and run (0:34 2nd). In the 2011 Oregon St. game missed his block allowing instant penetration by DT Andrew Seumalo for big hit and TFL right as the ball was handed off (9:15 1st), good interior block turning his DT to the other side to create the running lane (5:55 1st), solid pull play getting out to block CB on the edge but didn’t pancake him (5:30 2nd), and a good pull play pancaking S Anthony Watkins on off tackle run (1:40 2nd). In the 2011 Nebraska game couldn’t keep Crick from penetrating but did great job of pushing him very wide on rollout right negating him from play (5:16 1st), solid pass pro on Crick ending rush quick (3:55 2nd), nice cut block of CB on end around helping him for 13 yds. Missed 3 games due to an ankle injury but came back for the Rose Bowl. In the 2011 Oregon game (Rose Bowl) he had a very strong block on DT nearly pancaking him but still keeping him occupied and attacking, missed LB at 2nd level, good double block helping Seitler on DT then moving to LB and being very physical with him, good block shielding DT away for hole on inside TD run, great lock up block on LB latching on and riding him around for 3 sec. In the game he was moving well but clearly wasn’t 100% as he wasn’t pulling or doing the elite plays I usually see from him. His grade though is still intact as he’s the 3rd greatest C I’ve ever graded behind only Nick Mangold and Maurkice Pouncey (ahead of Alex Mack and Ryan Kalil) and is a future Pro Bowler. Top 15 1/11/12. 1st team Big Ten by coaches and media. 2nd team All American by SI.

Tape: 2010: TCU (Rose Bowl) 2011: UNLV,Oregon St.,Illinois,Oregon (Rose Bowl)

Overall: Peter will be an interesting prospect to monitor this year as he ended last season as my #1 rated C in the country, ahead of first round pick Mike Pouncey who I rated as an OG anyways, and looked destined to be a top selection himself. Yet he missed 3 games with an injury, followed it up with an average Rose Bowl where he clearly wasn’t 100%, and ended it with a very poor combine where he only did 18 reps on the bench and then skipped all of the other drills. Normally this would lead me to drop him a round or two yet I feel too strongly that, when healthy, he is one of the best centers I’ve ever graded and I’m only dropping him a few spots. He’s a 6’5 314 lb anchor who has the base to handle even the biggest 3-4 NTs yet also the elite quickness and movement to lead edge runs on pull blocks. He’s unequivocably the greatest pulling center I’ve ever graded and his height and frame make it likely he could gain another 5-10 lbs easily. In the past 5 years I’ve graded 4 elite centers (in ranked order from best to worst): Nick Mangold, Maurkice Pouncey, Alex Mack, Ryan Kalil. I would put Kalil just behind Pouncey and just ahead of Mack which, considering all four have made it to the Pro Bowl, is quite an honor. Some will focus on the way he ended his collegiate career and it’s possible he drops out of the 1st round because of it, yet I see a future Pro Bowler at a value position and think it’s silly to not put him near the top of the 1st round. The #1 C on my board and Top 15 2/26/12.

2. Phillip Blake Baylor #74 6’2 ¾ 311 Sr.

Comparison: Andre Gurode

Background: Canadian born. Only played 1 year of HS football. 1st Overall Pick of the CFL Draft in 2011 but declined offer to go pro staying in college.

Combine: Looked very smooth in mirror drill. Very good in 1×1 mirror drill.

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4.65

7.86

55.4

Notes: JUCO in ’08 (Tyler Junior College). 12/12 in ’09 at RT. 13/13 at C in 2010 earning honorable mention Big 12. 13/13 at C in 2011 earning 1st team Big 12. Tall and fast player who moves extremely well for his size. Has an NFL look to him. Has average strength at best and doesn’t seem to take great angles but both of those things are fixable-especially the technical aspects. In the ’10 Texas Bowl vs. Illinois he was pitted against Corey Liuget who clearly outplayed him as he was both too strong for him and too quick for him. I still like Blake a lot as Liuget is a 2nd rounder to me but he is more of a project than I initially thought. 7th round 1/3/11. Is considered a quit guy by teammates. In the 2011 TCU game didn’t look good at all on 2nd level block looking slow and cumbersome missing badly (13:03 1st). In the 2011 Washington game he had solid block on 2nd level, allowed DT Alameda Ta’amu go right around him for pressure, bull rushed 4 yds back by Ta, high snap but handled well by QB, snapped when QB not ready, solid push on run, snapped before anyone on offense was ready-very weird play, high snap, pushed 3 yds in backfield by Ta’amu but was rollout by QB. He had a good game against DT Alameda Ta’amu showing a good enough base to handle him, did allow some bull rushes but anyone would have, and showed solid quickness getting out to 2nd level blocks. He looks like a legit NFL center except for his poor snaps so when all is said and done he might actually move to OG which dramatically reduces his value. As a center I right now have a 5th round grade on him 1/14/12. Senior Bowl: Day 2: 1×1: Good hold on initial bull rush vs. DT Tydreke Powell then lost ground a bit on spin move but recovered well to stay in front of him for small win (+2). Initially knocked back by Powell but reanchored and held well for win (+3). Knocked back initially by DT Tony Jerrod-Eddie but again reanchored and stoned him for win (+3). Beat by DT Jaye Howard at OG on outside edge with up and under move for loss (-3). No rush vs. Powell for big win-held bull and edges (+4). 11×11: Very good block vs. DT Brandon Thompson knocking him well away from play. Day 3: Good strength jarring and nearly pancaking Howard on double team as an OG, great strength again this time with double vs. DT Kheeston Randle nearly getting him to the ground. 1×1: Lunged a bit vs. DT Brandon Thompson who then took edge and rode it around for loss-showed good strength just poor technique and beat on quickness (-3). Great anchor vs. DT Tony Jerrod Eddie then fought to keep edge for win (+3). Kept edge and not pushed very far by Randle for win (+3). 11×11: Fumbled snap with Lindley, solid block vs. Jerrod-Eddie on run play at him, very good control vs. Powell keeping him occupied as RB went right by them, beat on edge by Powell who circled around for semi quick pressure, no rush at all and actually looked stronger than Thompson on battle getting him completely turned around. 2011 Senior Bowl Game: He got the start at RG, quick down block vs. DT Mike Martin but was spun off quickly on nice move to almost make 5 yd tackle, gave penetration by DT Kendall Reyes but rode him outside and away from QB, good initial push but then surprisingly shed by Reyes yet didn’t miss a beat and latched onto S Trenton Robinson for final 3 sec, no rush vs. DT Billy Winn, good push of DT Derek Wolfe knocking him down, had initial block vs. Wolfe but then shed for 5 yd tackle as RB went by-didn’t finish block, called for hold on off tackle run, no rush in 3 sec vs. Wolfe but lost outside at end as ball thrown, pushed pretty far back in quick 3 sec throw by Reyes, good battle for no rush vs. Wolfe in 5 sec-definitely superior strength wise to him, no rush again vs. Wolfe but let him go late for a 4-5 sec pressure. He was spectacular in one on one drills getting a +12 (highest of any OL on either team) as he showed an elite base, good arm strength, and solid quickness. His base is clearly his biggest strength as he was able to handle bigger types like Brandon Thompson, Tydreke Powell, and Alameda Ta’amu (also did it against him in their bowl game). He does seem to have issues with his snaps, isn’t great at finishing blocks, and isn’t the best technician but he’s already one of the 3 best Cs in this draft and is neck and neck with Mike Brewster for #2. Out of 4 C’s he was clearly #1 yet Brewster’s superior more consistent game film makes it a dead heat between the two. 3rd round 2/22/12. Missed 5 of 26 games the past two years.

Tape: 2011: TCU,KansasSt.,Texas A&M,Oklahoma St., Washington, Senior Bowl Practices & Game 2010: Texas A&M, Illinois

Overall: At the end of the 2010 season I had a 7th round grade on Philip as he had been severely outplayed by DT Corey Liuget and looked like a project. Part of that grade was an overreaction to a poor game of his but part of it was legitimate and shows just how much he has improved in a year. He’s still raw in how he doesn’t hold his blocks, his technique in blocking at the 2nd level, and his inconsistency yet he has dramatically improved his game this year and I expect it to continue. His base, long arms, and explosion are all top of the line giving him a chance to immediately start for a run oriented team. He doesn’t have elite quickness and quicker DTs are more successful against him than bigger ones so a pass oriented team might need to give him a year before starting or help him schematically yet I do think he could be an effective C for any scheme. The most exciting thing though is that he seems to have improved throughout 2011 culminating in a very good performance against DT Alameda Ta’amu (2nd round grade) as well as looking superior to Mike Brewster, William Vlachos, and Ben Jones at the Senior Bowl a month later. He is by no means a finished product but the fact that he’s already this good of a C with only 1 season of HS football under his belt, 1 season of JUCO football, and 3 seasons of Big 12 football (only 2 seasons at C) makes it very possibly that we are just seeing the tip of the iceberg. Late 2nd and my #2 C 2/26/12.

3. Mike Brewster Ohio St. #50 6’4 1/8 312 Sr.

Comparison: Antoine Caldwell

Background: First team Freshman All American in ’08 after starting 10 games at C due to injury. 13/13 at C in ’09. 13/13 in ’10 at C earning 1st team Big Ten. 13/13 in ’11 at C earning 1st team Big Ten.

Combine: Fell all over the place in mirror drill. Fell also on pull block drill. Solid but not as good as Blake in 1×1 mirror drill.

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31.5

9.5

5.35

29

25

800

4.78

7.73

42.9

Notes: 2nd team Big 10 in 2010. I wasn’t too impressed with him as he didn’t get beat by Arkansas’ unknown DTs but also didn’t get any push or show great athleticism or strength. 6th round due to his reputation and great height 1/18/11. #42 ESPN 150 HS Class of ’07. Came back for senior year. Blamed for the 10-7 loss to Michigan St. due to protection issues caused by poor calls at the line. In the 2011 Nebraska game he blocked no one on short yardage missing defender, solid mobility semi blocking LB on TE screen for a long TD, good run block straight ahead on RB dive getting a little push (2:24 2nd). 49 career starts. In the 2011 Florida game he had good quickness in space getting to 2nd level blocks but rarely pushed them back, good diving block to nip safety to create room for TE screen that went +25 yds, pushed down by DT Jaye Howard and he took him with him for hold. He had a surprisingly uneventful game considering he went against Howard yet showed solid quickness and strength to go along with his elite experience in a top 4 conference. 4th round 1/10/12. Senior Bowl: Day 1: Knocked back 3 yds by DT Alameda Ta’amu on inside run, knocked 5 yds in backfield again on run vs. Ta, 1×1: Kept edge vs. DT Mike Martin but bull rushed back into cone for rather quick loss (-3), beat slightly on edge by Martin and had inferior strength so couldn’t regain it for 3 sec loss (-4). Good battle vs. Martin keeping edge and getting pushed back but barely held away from cone for small win (+2), beat on outside edge by swim move for loss (-4). 11×11: No rush vs. Ta. Day 2: Fumbled snap with Kellen Moore. 1×1: Bull rushed then semi lost edge vs. Martin who got to cone, grabbed it, and flung it in the air as he knew he had won (-3). Pushed back initially by Ta but anchored and didn’t move anymore for nice win (+3). Day 3: Poor shotgun snap nearly over 6’2 Kirk Cousins head. 2011 Senior Bowl Game: He got the start at C, couldn’t push away DT Brandon Thompson on inside draw and disengaged nearly for 2 yd tackle but RB broke it, couldn’t move Thompson even with Seitler’s help then shed for no gain tackle, no rush vs. DT Kheeston Randle, good strength leading double team vs. Randle, okay run block vs. Randle getting him back but shed once pile created, no rush vs. Randle on 3 step, run blocked Randle well on draw, pushed back by Randle but stayed in front for only small rush, no rush vs. Randle with initial double by LG, good help when LG beat immediately by DT, no rush vs. DT Tydreke Powell, gave ground but stayed in front of quick DT Jaye Howard, no rush vs. Ingram at DT, didn’t let Thompson disengage on inside run right behind him, thrown aside by Howard for no gain tackle on inside run right at them, pushed back a bit by Thompson then just pancaked him showing great dominance (4:00 3rd), too slow on side block vs. Thompson who shot through hole when RG pulled to make nice TFL-hard block but wasn’t even close, blocked Thompson well despite strong push by him-handles him pretty consistently straight up, solid mobility to get to LB but shed easily by LB Emmanuel Acho, very nice play getting double help initially then one on one with Thompson on run play behind him and pancaked him (9:23 4th), good job engaging Howard on run right behind him not letting him get off to make play, knocked back by Howard on inside run ruining play as he basically was pushed into RB, fumbled snap with QB Kirk Cousins. Brewster was clearly the #2 C out of the 4 at the Senior Bowl as Blake was far superior to him in staying on his feet and handling the bull rushes yet Mike looked more athletic than Vlachos or Jones who both have poor bodies and are more experienced technicians. He had good tape this year but in an event where he and Blake blocked the same guys he clearly was inferior. 4th round 2/26/12.

Tape: 2011:Nebraska,Michigan,Florida, Senior Bowl Game and Practices

Overall: Mike hovers between an overachieving technician type C and a legit talent who combines experience at a top notch program to be a major prospect. Some games I see one side of him and other games I see the other side yet he’s much closer to the technician than the elite talent. At 6’4 313 lbs in theory he should have the frame to handle any bull rush yet time and again he’s knocked backwards into the pocket and allows disruption to the play. It’s hard for me to figure out yet happens too frequently to be dismissed as a rarity. Also his short arms (31 ½) and mediocre foot speed make him a future liability against elite speed rushers yet his film tape definitely insinuates that the big hulking NTs will give him more trouble in the league than the speedy one gap DTs. He’s experienced, tough, has far more talent than other experienced centers in this draft (Ben Jones, William Vlachos), and is strong yet he looks like nothing more than a future average starting C in the NFL. 4th round and my #3 C 2/26/12.

4. Quentin Saulsberry Mississippi St. #55 6’2 3/8 304 Sr.

Background: Redshirted in ’07. 12/12 at RT in ’08. 12/12 at LG in ’09. 12/12 in ’10 (10 RG, 2 C). 13/13 in ’11 (4 C, 9 RG). Elite versatility and elite arm length for a non OT makes him a unique player.

Combine: Good 40 time and had the abnormally long arms I thought he would with 33 ¾ which was longer than most OTs! Solid but a tad slow in mirror drill. Looked a little raw and jerky on kick slide drill.

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4.99

8.19

35.8

Notes: 39 career starts (going into LSU game) at 4 different positions. In the 2011 LSU game showed long arms and great quickness to snap the ball and almost instantly hit the DT with a hand punch-very impressive initial review (13:45 1st), moved to RG after an injury there and looked solid, jumped intentionally offsides as defender tried to blitz and fell at the line doing a really smart move to get 5 yards (5:06 1st), great block pushing DT Anthony Johnson away to one side to create hole for QB run then pancaking him (1:57 1st), pancaked DT Michael Brockers with one arm shivvy in outstanding display of strength as he is 306 lbs (1:15 1st), great chop block on DT flattening him out completely on 3 step drop throw (9:07 2nd), pancaked DE on pull block (8:50 2nd), false start (8:10 2nd), pushed back by DE Kendrick Adams deflecting ball at LOS (6:01 2nd), and really dumb hold after a chop block when DE tried to get up-the play wasn’t even near him (2:44 4th). In the 2011 Wake Forest game he played RG in the game, good quickness moving right with OL but reacting quickly to blitzer picking him up, solid zone block starting to block DE then being quick enough to switch to DT to wall off, good block on blitzer on pull block but has looked awkward in space much of the game-not the smooth OL I remember, NT Nikita Whitlock spun off his block for tackle on inside run, solid block on LB in 2nd level, couldn’t hold Whitlock again allowing 2 yd tackle-he is very fast and slippery, good down block on Whitlock opening huge hole for 70 yd TD run. He looked far slower and less athletic than I remember but I still like his hustle, strength, long arms, and tenacity. He drops but is still a steal in my book: 4th round 1/4/12. Started all 50 games of his career. In the 2011 East-West Shrine Game he got start at C, very quick block on LB Ronnie Thornton on 2nd level, good quickness to 2nd level but LB slipped block, solid quickness again to LB but again he missed it, good help on RG with DT sliding well, good quickness getting to side of DT Kaniela Tuipolutu to wall off on run to other side, initially blocked DT Dominique Hamilton but lost him allowing trail, pushed back into backfield by Hamilton on inside run. Out of the 4 Cs at East-West Shrine Game he was the best at #1. 5th round 1/24/12.

Tape: 2011: LSU,WakeForest, East-West Shrine Game

Overall: When I first saw Quentin this year I thought he was arguably my biggest steal as his long arms, quickness, and strength were outstanding and he decimated the vaunted LSU DL all game long. That player hasn’t been seen since that day and I’ve had to come to grips with the fact that I either was more impressed than the tape warranted or more likely I just caught him having the game of his life. Nonetheless he is still a very solid prospect who has a solid frame (6’2 304), good strength (26 reps), and elite long arms (33.8). Yet his Wake Forest tape was mediocre, his East-West Shrine Game was good but against below average talent, and his combine drills were all near the bottom of the 54 man OL group. He has far more upside than Michael Brewster yet also has more bust potential than him. At worst he should catch on a roster due to his ability to play C, OG, or even RT in a pinch and I still can’t shake the image from my head of his LSU game so I’m giving him a 4th round grade and my #4 C though he probably doesn’t deserve it 2/26/12.

5. David Molk Michigan #50 6’1 298 Sr.

Comparison: Dan Koppen

Combine: 41 reps on bench were 3rd most by OL since 2000.

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Notes: In the 2011 Michigan St. game he went up against DT Jerel Worthy, beat on initial move by DT Kevin Pickelman but run the other way, very good strength pancaking DT Anthony Rashad White after getting initial help with double (11:06 1st), pancaked DT Mark Scarpinato on initial move showing vastly superior strength to the freshman (11:00 1st), great quickness getting to Worthy to his right before he could penetrate and walling him off from option right-very tough block (10:40 1st), beat by White after 3 sec nearly giving up 5 sec sack but QB got out of grasp and he showed good quickness blocking White later in play (9:00 1st), poor 2nd level block letting LB come to him so when he pushed him it was at LOS and he was pushed into RB for TFL (5:00 1st), good aggressive block past whistle, beat immediately by Pickelman for very quick TFL showing inferior quickness again to him (13:30 2nd), only could block Worthy for 2 sec but run was away, no rush in 5 sec vs. Pickelman (10:20 3rd), beat by Pickelman for 4 sec sack but only partially his fault as LG was doubling him (9:40 3rd). At times Molk looks dominant as he had numerous pancake blocks and went about a quarter where he dominated every rusher yet at other times he looks slow and unathletic allowing penetration numerous times. He seems to be the slower, strong type and will probably struggle against the more athletic DTs yet hold his own against the 3-4 NTs. I see a lot to like about him but think he has a long way to go before he can be considered an elite prospect and unfortunately he is a Sr. so I give him a 6th round grade 10/21/11. Voted best lineman in Big Ten and Rimington Award Winner in 2011. In the 2011 Virginia Tech game he was injured in pregame warmups. He came into game after 1st series. Had a solid block at 2nd level, poor quickness allowing DT to shoot through for pressure, very good block of LB on 2nd level-very smooth in movements in open space, great snapper-didn’t have a bad one all game. He had a solid game toughing it out despite the pregame injury and looked quick and strong. I still am not a huge fan of his as he is inconsistent and lacks the top notch athleticism I think is needed to overcome below average height and weight. Still he’s worth a later round pick as he is experienced and has been productive in a top 4 conference. 5th round 1/5/12.

Tape: 2011: Notre Dame,Michigan St.,Ohio St.,Virginia Tech

Overall: Molk is the classic system player because he has clear strengths and weaknesses that will unlikely change during his career and if a team can cover up his deficiencies adequately enough then they could use him in a productive capacity for a long time. David is short, squat, aggressive, and strong as a bull making him perfect in a run oriented scheme that gets him into a phone booth on a regular basis. He will be at his best taking on big DTs as he uses his lack of height as an advantage consistently getting leverage over his opponent and pancaking them with his elite strength (41 reps-3rd most by an OL since 2000). Yet he has short arms (32), a short frame (6’1), and doesn’t have the ability to handle ultra quick DTs or make blocks consistently at the 2nd level. He will not work in a zone scheme and will need help from OGs even in a man scheme in pass protection against certain players. Essentially a team will be getting a flawed starter but one that has legitimate strengths as well so if they are willing to cover up his weaknesses they could be rewarded. As a person David is a tough, experienced player who has been a leader on his team and one of the more successful centers in the country the past few years. The jump in competition will be difficult for him due to his size limitations but in the right scheme I could see David having a solid 10 year career in the pros. 5th round and my #5 C 2/26/12.

6. William Vlachos Alabama #73 6’0 306 Sr.

Pro Day:

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Notes: 3 year starter on a very good OL in the best conference in the nation. Is a strong player who had a few pancake blocks vs. Michigan St. in their 2010 bowl victory but who isn’t the fastest or most athletic player. 27 straight starts going into 2011. In the 2011 Penn St. game had a solid block keeping DT to his left and away from sweep right (14:20 2nd), and not quick enough to block DT allowing penetration and a huge TFL hitting RB as he got the ball (8:23 2nd). In the 2011 Auburn game he just looked fat and slow on TE screen bobbling all around (9:42 1st), was aggressive pushing DT Kenneth Carter back but then showed lack of strength getting pancaked, good secondary block waiting for LB to come to him as he was downfield in way of run and then hit him and steered him away, unable to keep DT in front of him allowing him to turn and forcing RB to cut inside. In the 2011 LSU game #2 he had poor down block missing and falling down, good wall block of DT Michael Brockers creating nice hole on 6 yd run right behind him, poor mobility in space on RB screen, very good block on DT Bennie Logan getting him turned then shoving him 2 yds in backfield (1:02 2nd). He had a solid game against some talented DTs yet again looked very bad in space and was a good technician but hardly a powerful pile driver. I like him as a later round guy but that is a bit lower than most who have him in the middle rounds. 6th round 1/9/12. Senior Bowl: Day 2: 1×1: Very bad on bull rush by DT Tony Jerod-Eddie for quick loss being pushed back immediately 5 yds (-4). Anchored better this time vs. DT Brandon Thompson but lost edge and was worked around for loss (-3). Pushed back initially by DT Tydreke Powell but reanchored and got really low for slight win (+2). Held ground well vs. Thompson who pushed him back reducing it to only small win (+2). 11×11: Beat on edge instantly by DT Jaye Howard for quick sack. Day 3: 1×1: Great job not allowing penetration vs. DT Kheeston Randle and anchored well for big win (+4). Very good job staying with DE Melvin Ingram at DT semi losing edge but showing quick feet riding him wide for win (+3). Didn’t move much vs. Jerod-Eddie’s bull but gave edge late for small loss (-2). Very quick feet and great anchor vs. Powell moving to keep edge and staying away from cone for win that was almost a big win (+3). 11×11: Steered Randle sideways creating nice running lane, steered Thompson away from run play-eventually showed inferior strength and lost block but only after play was over due to his elite technique, good job keeping Thompson occupied and away from outside run, no rush vs. Randle giving a little ground near the end but keeping edges and having great anchoring on 5 sec throw. 2011 Senior Bowl Game: No rush vs. DT Mike Martin, very good no rush or movement at all vs. DT Alameda Ta’amu, no rush or movement again vs. Ta’amu, no rush vs. Martin, solid speed in space on RB screen, beat on edge by Martin and held him otherwise would be pressure or sack-not called. Once again he showed that he is an elite technician that is usually able to overcome his lack of height, arm length, quickness, or strength yet can be exploited if not used correctly. His ability to turn DTs and wall them off in the run game gives him the slight edge over C Ben Jones (I do know I’m in the minority having him ahead of Jones) but neither look like sure fire starters at the next level. Out of the 4 centers at the Senior Bowl he was #3 and far away from the #2 guy Michael Brewster. 6th round 2/26/12.

Tape: 2011: Spring Game,Penn St., Auburn, Florida, LSU (1), LSU (2), Senior Bowl Practices and Game 2010: Michigan St.,Auburn

Overall: William starts the grouping of players at the center position where I no longer think they will become full time starters. Both he and Ben Jones are comparable in that they are extremely experienced players in the best conference in the country at top programs yet neither have the look or game of NFL centers. Vlachos is even smaller than Jones and is why he’s rated lower by most yet when I watch Vlachos I see elite technical skills that I don’t notice on Jones and it makes me think he will have a better shot at making it in the NFL. Both will be severely undersized and less athletic than most players they face and therefore are likely to be backups or below average starters throughout their career. 6th round and my #6 C 2/26/12.

7. Ben Jones Georgia #60 6’2 5/8 303 Sr.

Background: Graduated HS early to be early enrollee. 10/13 in ’08 as a true freshman at C earning him Freshman All American honors. 13/13 in ’09 at C. 12/13 in ’10 at C earning 2nd team SEC. Missed first half of Colorado game for late clipping penalty vs. Mississippi St. 14/14 in ’11 at C again earning 2nd team SEC.

Combine: Looked actually pretty quick in mirror drill. Very quick in kick slide drill.

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5.44

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4.74

7.95

41

Notes: Was the emotional leader in the center of the huddle before the 2011 South Carolina game, shouting out to the other players. A bit overweight and slow but a true hustler and leader. Got onto star freshman RB Isaiah Crowell when he missed his assignment. In the 2011 South Carolina game showed great hustle on RB screen getting 20 yds downfield and diving for a cut block on a defender to help get the TD (6:11 3rd). In the 2011 Boise St. game had an early snap causing multiple false starts by OL (13:50 1st). In the 2011 Tennessee game he had a really good 2nd level block pushing S back 5 yards and showing aggression (10:30 1st), great pull block showing okay mobility and speed but really hitting a LB hard around LOS (4:55 2nd), hold on inside run. Played 49 games in career. In the 2011 Michigan St. game he was pushed well back by DT Anthony Rashad White on bull rush, jarred immediately backward 3 yds by DT Jerel Worthy, good pancake of LB at 2nd level-looks like a fat guy waddling out there but was very effective (10:55 1st), solid base against White’s bull rush, poor block on Worthy allowing trailing 2 yd tackle on 3rd and 3, jarred by Worthy but then good wall on inside run. He again looked strong, tough, fat, and not that athletic. I love his experience with 49 games in the best conference in the country but he still looks like a later pick to me. 6th round 1/19/12. Senior Bowl: Day 2: 1×1: Good initial block on DT Kheeston Randle but eventually shed for long, slow, small loss (-1). Pushed back then shed by Randle for loss (-3). Punched well by Randle setting up spin move for loss (-3). Day 3: 1×1: Knocked back near cone by bull rush of DT Tony Jerrod-Eddie but never quite let him get around him for small loss (-2). Good job barely keeping edge vs. Randle and not getting pushed back much at all for win (+3). 11×11: Pancaked DT Brandon Thompson on run play, poor 2nd level block letting LB run right by him. 2011 Senior Bowl Game: He got the start at C, no rush in 4 sec vs. DT Mike Martin, no rush vs. Martin, knocked back and shed by Martin on inside run but RB went to other hole, stacked by Martin on run behind him allowing no gain tackle, thrown aside by DT Alameda Ta’amu for 4 yd TFL, pushed back a bit by Ta initially but reanchored and didn’t move after that for no rush, solid mobility getting to LB and keeping him occupied. All year I’ve thought Jones was overrated due to his elite start totals in a top program and this week confirmed it. He wasn’t terrible by any stretch but went 1-4 in his one on one battles (-6 total), looked unathletic in space, and just looked like a future backup interior OL in the NFL. Out of the 4 centers at the Senior Bowl he was worst at #4 (Blake, Brewster, Vlachos) and not even close to the top 2 guys. 6th round 2/26/12.

Tape: 2011:Boise St.,South Carolina,Tennessee, LSU,Michigan St. Senior Bowl Practices and Game

Overall: Ben has played in all 50 games (didn’t start one game due to suspension) of his career in the best conference in the country and has been a leader for his team. I understand why fans love him yet I question why scouts do as well because he has an exceptionally sloppy body, is slow, and has numerous negatives to his game. He has solid height, arm length, and strength yet even after dropping weight leading up to the Senior Bowl and Combine he still only ran his 40 in 5.44 and had a big belly making me question his work ethic. He’s been an emotional leader for his team the past two years and has some pretty good tape for his career yet every time I see him I see future backup or spot starter. 6th round and my #7 C 2/26/12.

8. Scott Wedige Northern Illinois #71 6’4 314 Sr.

Pro Day:

HGT

WGT

Arms

Hands

40

Reps

Vert

Broad

Shuttle

3 Cone

1 yr %

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Notes: 5th year Sr. A tall, long armed player who gets pushed back too easily and needs to gain a little more weight and has the frame to do it. In the 2011 Arkansas St. game he had a great start to the game giving penetration to DT then maneuvering him around and body slamming him to the ground, hitting DT once on the ground-very fiery move (11:17 1st), push slowly back by bull rush, pushed immediately back 4 yds, good battle ending in pancake with DT in trench, low and away snap for fumble on shotgun, good speed in space on RB screen, very good extended block ending in pancake on LB Demario Davis on 2nd level (3:30 1st), bull rushed 3 yds back-his lack of base is noticeable in this game, low snap, bull rushed back 3 yds on quick 3 step drop, holding in garbage time. He impressed me with his height, long arms, mobility, and tenacity as he looks like a legit NFL center prospect. Unfortunately those things are partially hurt by his inability to hold his ground against bull rushes. 6th round 1/9/12.

Tape: 2011:Arkansas St.

Overall: A small school prospect who caught my eye in the one Northern Illinois game I scouted. He wasn’t invited to the combine (bad sign), got pushed back pretty easily against Arkansas St. (bad sign), and I haven’t seen a drafteable grade on him yet (really bad sign) yet I like him as a developmental type who has far more bust potential than Vlachos or Jones ahead of him but I think has more talent also. A late round flier whose long arms, tenacity, and quickness make him intriguing-especially in a zone blocking scheme. 6th round and my #8 C 2/26/12.

9. David Snow Texas #78 6’4 303 Sr.

Pro Day:

HGT

WGT

Arms

Hands

40

Reps

Vert

Broad

Shuttle

3 Cone

1 yr %

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Notes: In the 2011 East-West Shrine Game he got start at C, fumbled snap, good push vs. DT Akiem Hicks, had Hicks on skates on sweep right pancaking him at end (3:14 1st), very nice run block vs. DT Travian Robertson re-directing him and walling him from run to other side. Out of the 4 Cs at East-West Shrine Game he was solid at #2 (Saulsberry). 7th round 1/24/12.

Tape: 2011: Oklahoma, Oklahoma St., Baylor, Cal

Overall: I’ve watched numerous Texas games the past two years and never really noticed Snow too much yet he looked very solid in the East-West Shrine game. He isn’t the greatest athlete or the strongest player but he has good technique and a solid blend of height, weight, and overall athleticism. He’ll be a backup for a team his first few years and have an outside chance to start down the road. 7th round and my #9 C 3/2/12.

10. Garth Gerhart Arizona St. 6’1 ¼ 305 Sr.

Background: Toby Gerhart’s brother. 35 starts at C and G. Coaches son.

Combine: Looked raw on kick slide drill but basically got out to rusher.

HGT

WGT

Arms

Hands

40

Reps

Vert

Broad

Shuttle

3 Cone

1 yr %

6012

305

33.38

9.63

5.42

25

30.5

800

4.65

7.63

46.6

Notes: Redshirted in ’07. 3/6 in ’08 as backup C who got final 3 starts of the year. 7/8 with 5 at RG and 2 at C. 12/12 at C in ’10. 2nd team Pc-12 in ’11 starting a total of 39 games in his career.

Tape: 2011: Missouri, Oregon, Cal, Boise St.

Overall: He’s a shorter, unathletic player who has been a capable college player but nothing special. That seems like it would make him undrafteable but I like him as a technician and as a coaches son who has a great work ethic and makes the most of his talent. Most likely he will be a career backup but I think he’ll stick on a team for a while. 7th round and my #10 C 3/2/12.

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