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2011 NFL Draft Blog: Round 5-6

April 28, 2012

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—Heading to dogfishhead festival at Common Table so Round 7 will be covered later but to me the best guys remaining are: CB Alfonzo Dennard (punching a cop in the face the week before the draft is always a bad idea), CB Chase Minnifield, PR Cam Johnson, OT Nate Potter, WR Patrick Edwards, PR Cordarro Law, S Antonio Allen, CB Coryell Judie, WR Junior Hemmingway, LB Noah Keller, S Tramaine Johnson, OG Matt Reynolds. There is still some talent left so hopefully the Cowboys find a way to get some of it either through the 7 th round or via free agency.

—Another round and another great pick by the Eagles as they take WR Marvin McNutt at #194. He was ranked #172 on my board so he isn’t a steal but after 3 straight guys were taken ahead of him who were in the 200’s-300’s on my board it becomes a pick that catches my eye. He fumbled a bit and had some drops so Marvin has his flaws but he was extremely productive at Iowa and is a guy that is easy to scout. He will struggle against good cornerbacks and dominant bad ones as that has been his MO the past two years getting shutdown by Jamell Fleming in their bowl game and being inconsistent at the Senior Bowl. Bring him into a game as a #3 or #4 WR and he will be a good addition to your offense. A good career #3 WR for the Eagles in the 6th round. CRAP!

—James Hanna was taken in the 6th round by the Cowboys at #186. He’s a tight end out of Oklahoma who wasn’t all that productive in college but absolutely blew away scouts with his measurables at the Combine. His career high is only 381 yds receiving for a season and never has had more than 27 catches in a season despite playing in one of the best passing offenses in college football so that to me was a huge red flag that pushed him down on my board. As an athlete he is spectacular and I think they are just thinking they bring in a project with elite talent and let Jason Witten train him into becoming a top level TE. Another reach in my opinion but it has some logic to it for sure. If the Cowboys wanted a tight end I would have taken George Bryan the TE out of North Carolina State.

James Hanna OU 6’3 ¾ 252 Sr.

Stats: Big 12

Year

Rec

Yards

Avg

TD

2011

27

381

14.1

2

2010

18

292

16.2

7

2009

6

48

8.0

0

2008

1

-1

-1.0

0

Combine: Had a spectacular 40 time of 4.49 and at a legit 250 lbs. His 40 was the 4th fastest time by a TE since 2000. Dropped ball on tip toe drill. Dropped another ball in over the shoulder drill. Caught all 7 balls in gauntlet drill with ease except body caught last one. Okay on out and up drill. Stopped running in route causing INC on corner route drill?

HGT

WGT

Arms

Hands

40

Reps

Vert

Broad

Shuttle

3 Cone

1 yr %

6036

252

33.13

9.25

4.49

24

36

1002

4.11

6.76

97.2

Notes: Had an okay year in ’10 (18 292 7 TD). In the ’10 Fiesta Bowl vs. UConn had an easy TD on short out that he made look very smooth showing good hands and speed (10:13 1st). Free Agent 1/17/12. Finished 2nd only to Michael Egnew at the combine for TEs being 1st among the 13 TEs (only 8 or so really worked out) in the 40 and vertical jump, 2nd in the shuttle, 3 cone, and bench press, and 3rd in the broad jump. He absolutely aced the drills only finishing second because of his height which was middle of the pack and his hand size which was 11th and close to the bottom.

Tape: 2011:Florida St.,Texas,Oklahoma St.,Iowa

Overall: Didn’t impress me that much in the season but had a stunning combine performance that was backed up a bit by his numbers (16.2 ypr as a junior is elite for a TE as is 7 TDs). He’s an H-back type who has just enough size and strength to be an adequate blocker but will most likely serve a team best as a #2 TE who comes in for specific plays where they want to stretch the seam with a speed TE. He has the speed to do that and should make a roster as a role specific player. 6th round and my #10 TE 2/29/12.

—Proving that my list is valid 2 of my 8 guys I listed for best available to the Cowboys at #186 were taken in the 4 picks preceding the Cowboys with Gray at 182 and Lindley at 185. Lindley is a smart pick for the Cardinals as he is more talented than John Skelton, another big armed project they took in the late rounds, as a prospect. I expect Lindley to at least in year 2 challenge Kevin Kolb/Skelton for the starting job unless the Cardinals draft or trade for an upgrade before then.

—The Chiefs officially are the Saints of 2011 in terms of fantasy value via RBs as they have Jamaal Charles, Peyton Hillis, Dexter McClutheon, and now Cyrus Gray. That is a staple of good talent and unless there are some injuries to one or two of them I think they all will devour each other fantasy wise the way the Saints and Panthers RBs in 2011 did. Bad situation for Gray to go to as that’s a tough depth chart to crack.

—Best available guys with the Cowboys at #186 are: RB Cyrus Gray (oops Gray just got picked as I was writing that-great pick at #182 by the Chiefs), QB Case Keenum, CB Alfonzo Dennard, CB Chase Minnifield, PR Cam Johnson, QB Ryan Lindley, OT Nate Potter, WR Patrick Edwards

—The Cowboys better be careful b/c they are now on pace to have the worst 3rd day of the draft after the Seahawks just added S Winston Guy out of Kentucky. He follows Jaye Howard the DT out of Florida with both picks being very good values for their slots. I’m looking but right now the only team I can see that hasn’t had at least one pick I liked in Day 3 is the Cowboys. I do think Coale is a solid player and will compete for the #3 WR job due to his elite hands and dependability but at the spot they took him at it’s just too early to me. Cowboys need to step it up big time these last few picks.

—Justin Bethel CB/S Presbyterian at #177 was a good pick for the Arizona Cardinals. I had him ranked #135 so it’s good value but more importantly I just like the player as he’s long, athletic, and raw who I think isn’t quite quick enough to be at CB long term but could be moved inside to safety or kept at cornerback with safety help over the top. He will be a project at CB or safety but while you wait for his elite athleticism to be developed he already will be helping you as he’s an elite special teamer who has 9 career blocked kicks due to his speed and 76 3/4 wing span. I love projects like him who can be helping your team while you wait and he’s one of those guys. A sneaky good pick by the Arizona Cardinals.

—The Bucs just made a great pick at #174 in CB Keith Tandy. He’s an undersized guy who isn’t a speedster so it didn’t surprise me that he went this late but he has elite instincts and elite ball skills with 13 interceptions the past 3 years. He was 1st team ACC in 2011 and ever time I put the tape on of him he was making a big hit or a huge interception. He will be best in a cover 2 type scheme so the Bucs fit perfectly for him and I bet he’s their #3 CB by the end of his rookie season and playing well for them.

—Mohammed Sanu is a WR taken in the 3rd round by the Bengals yet I’m betting that the WR they just took in the 5th round (83 picks later) is a superior player down the road as WR Marvin Jones was #57 on my board and is an absolute steal here at #166. Andy Dalton I think just got his #2 WR as he’s tall 6’2, fast (sub 4.50 40 at the Combine), has good hands, elite body control (reminds me of Brandon Lloyd the way he contorts his body on the sidelines), and was a late 2nd rounder on my board. He’s could be a steal in the mid to late rounds on my dynasty fantasy draft next year.

—Randy Bullock K Texas A&M just was taken #161 by the Houston Texans and will replace Neil Rackers who just signed with another team recently. I realized with this pick that I didn’t put the free agent specialists (yep I graded kickers and punters, obsessed?) in my rankings so he goes unranked technically but would have been in the free agent grade range around #310ish. Still it’s pretty early for a kicker who was the best kicker in the country, won the Lou Groza award in 2011, but hardly elite and non even on scouts radar until this year. Gotta love a kicker with a belly though and Bullock has a Sebastian Janikowski sized belly!

—Another of my sleepers was just taken in Ryan Miller OT/OG Colorado at #160 by the Browns. Great pick as I could see him moving inside to LG and being part of a dominant left side of the line with Joe Thomas to his left at LT and Alex Mack to his right at center. Great pick for a team that hasn’t had too many in my eyes the past 2 years.

—I can’t help but notice how I keep loving the Eagles, Giants, Broncos, and Steelers picks and hating the Seahawks, Cowboys, and Vikings picks. Once again the Steelers continued the trend with a great pick in RB Chris Rainey at #159. I had him at #58 so they get 101 picks on the +/- scale I’m keeping track of and looks to be one of the steals of this draft. Watch Florida in 2011 or the Senior Bowl practices and you will see a player who reminds me of Darren Sproles in space yet who actually has superior hands. I had a late 2nd round grade on him as I think he could be a 1,500 total yards type back in the right system as he would be a great weapon to put at RB and then split out wide against a safety or dare I say a LB?! Against any LB in the NFL he would be a huge mismatch and I can see countless possibilities of the Steelers using him. Punt returner, kick returner, 3rd down back, slot WR, wheel routes out of the backfield, all are running through my mind right now. Great pick!

—The Eagles AGAIN make a great pick! Dennis Kelly was the #75 ranked player on my board and the #9 still available when the Eagles took him #153. He’s a 6’8 LT with good feet and who is a guy who could be a legit starting LT down the road once he gains some weight. I loved this kid and he was one of my top sleepers (Cordarro Law and Ryan Miller are others who still are out there) who got no respect from the scouting community for some reason. The Eagles taking him in the 5th round verifies that the Combine (didn’t invite him), Senior Bowl (didn’t invite him), and East-West Shrine Game (didn’t invite him) all underestimated this kid. Great pick! CRAP!

—So far the Cowboys have added PR Kyle Wilber, S Matt Johnson, and WR Danny Coale. In those spots at their same positions I would have taken Cam Johnson PR out of Virginia, Antonio Allen S out of South Carolina, and Marvin Jones WR out of California. I’ll be following up on those guys careers going forward as they played the same position and were still on the board when the Cowboys chose their selections. All three in my eyes look much better than the three the Cowboys selected but Marvin Jones vs. Danny Coale really bursts off the page to me as those two guys aren’t even close in terms of talent. We shall see.

—The Cowboys take the right position but the wrong player at #152 in WR Danny Coale from Virginia Tech. He’s a sure handed wideout with average speed and size who projects best as a slot receiver in the NFL but has just enough size to possibly stay outside in the pros. I wasn’t a huge fan as he lacked the burst and suddenness I like in my slot receivers but it makes sense in that Jason Garrett runs Norv Turner’s passing scheme and it values size in their WRs. If you wanted a WR Cowboys then why not take WR Marvin Jones out of California? That would be my pick as Coale went #152 but I had him exactly 100 spots later on my board at #252 while Jones was #57 and has good size at 6’2 200. Another reach for the Cowboys in Day 3. Here’s his full bio for Cowboys fans:

Danny Coale Virginia Tech #19 5’11 7/8 201 Sr.

Stats: ACC

Year

Rec

Yards

Avg

TD

2011

60

904

15.1

3

2010

39

732

18.8

3

2009

30

614

20.5

2

2008

36

408

11.3

0

Combine: Looked slow and was weaving a bit but had very strong hands in gauntlet drill. Good catch on dig route drill-isn’t as impressive a route runner as I expected. Solid on speed out drill.

HGT

WGT

Arms

Hands

40

Reps

Vert

Broad

Shuttle

3 Cone

1 yr %

5117

201

30.63

9.13

4.50

12

35

907

4.15

6.69

65.9

Notes: #2 all time at Virginia Tech in receptions. Had a 63 yd TD on deep slant perfectly thrown in stride that he took to the house nearly getting clipped at the ankles at the 5 but staying up (0:55 2nd), elite hands on diving 30 yd catch of 9 route that he was basically covered on-sort of a back shoulder diving adjustment (10:25 3rd). In the 2011Michigan game he had 8 or 9 catches and was the far more productive WR compared to Boykins.

Tape: 2011: Michigan 2010: Stanford

Overall: It surprises me a bit that Danny is getting as much buzz as he is since he’s the classic smaller slot WR who is quicker than fast with elite hands. It possibly is b/c he’s around 6’0 210 so teams think he can play outside and be a possession receiver but for whatever reason Coale is moving up draft boards. I’m all for it as I’ve said for years that the quicker than fast, sure handed WRs regularly outproduce guys who are bigger and slower despite getting drafted much later. Coale has spectacular hands and, while I don’t think he’s as quick as a lot of the others in this draft, he has better size and was a very productive WR in a top 5 conference. Unfortunately the thing that excites me the most about these types is usually their burst and their ability to separate which he lacks so I think he’ll be more of a backup possession receiver than a dependable slot receiver. Either way a team will love his elite hands, underrated speed, and consistency as he isn’t flashy but is more effective than given credit for. Early 7th round as my #38 WR 3/28/12.

—The Bills just had a nice pick at #147 getting Tank Carder the LB out of TCU. He’s a two time Mountain West DPOY and is a blood and guts type player who has enough athleticism to get by but is by no means a great athlete. I think that he’ll be a core special teamer and a backup from Day 1 and I very easily can envision him becoming a starting LB by year 2 or 3. The Bills are having an underrated draft so far. Good pick.

—By the way with the draft being keeping me so busy I won’t have time to do my 1st round analysis of the NBA playoffs but just to go on record I like the Mavs in 7 games vs. the Thunder then to lose in 6 games vs. the Lakers who then beat the Spurs in 6 games (after they come off a grueling 7 game series vs. the Grizzlies). The Lakers then go on to the NBA Finals and beat the Heat in 6 games and re-gain their throne as NBA Champs. That’s how I see it.

—One of the more interesting prospects was just taken #145 by the Titans as 3-4 DE Taylor Thompson out of SMU was drafted. He’s interesting b/c he was a 1st team Conference USA selection in 2010 and 2011 (beating out Dontari Poe both years by the way for DL honors) yet many teams consider him a tight end prospect. He was at 280 and I wanted him to bulk up to 300 (easy on his 6’6 frame) and be a poor man’s JJ Watts yet instead he trimmed down to 265 and dominated his pro day catching everything in sight and showing superior athleticism to what I even thought. He could be an absolute steal and is a great risk/reward type pick in the 5th round.

—The Panthers at #143 took Josh Norman CB out of Coastal Carolina. I wasn’t nearly as high on him as some people (Mayock had him #54, I had him #125) but he definitely has value in the 5th round as he’s a big, press cover cornerback who dominated the East-West Shrine Game practices so much that he got in as a late addition to the Senior Bowl. A raw, project type who could be a starter in 2 years. Good pick.

—Another John Elway pick and another good player at good value with DE Malik Jackson out of Tennessee. I saw this kid more of as a 3-4 DE as he’s big, long, and strong but he has just enough burst to maybe stay at 4-3 strong side DE and possibly even enough size to play one gap DT. Jackson is versatile, is a great athlete for his size, and was a consistent performer for a team that was young and often overmatched talent wise in the SEC. He played his heart out even when they were down +20 points to an LSU or Alabama and it proved his character. He doesn’t hurt that he had one of the more underrated Senior Bowls as he showed he could play a little 4-3 DE which opened my eyes to just how good of an athlete he is for 290 lbs.

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